Bartlein barrels vs krieger barrels forum The Lilja barrels I've used in 6. I posted on here about it asking if anyone had seen or heard any issues. 56 barrels as well as the CLE Bartlein/Krieger barrels. Going 26 inch heavy varmint 1:8. 6. I know the ammo is capable of that in an ideal situation, but 4 MOA from it is a bit of a head scratcher when others with the same rifle (SAI Loaded's and National Matches) are shooting it in the 2-2. 5 Creedmoor and was looking at some of the various barrels that are available. . 224" cal SS 24" 5-groove 1-14 was great ! Oct 15, 2013 · The barrel in my books is everything. All barrels are dialed in and chambered on a manual lathe, no CNC Aug 23, 2009 · I am sure Paul Craddock is as well, but put many months in your timeline, or buy a Criterion or Lilja barrel that is pre fitted for what you want. Feb 15, 2025 · It will have a McMillan M2a stock (green), and M-25 LRB M-25 receiver, and a Heavy weight Bartlein barrel (5R/11. Oct 21, 2013 · I never tested a Shilen in this round up review as you stated above. 219 1-8 twist in 3B anywhere, but I did find a Krieger #4 in 1-8 with a . Then, on the Bartlein side, I see offerings of 99% (or more) 5R barrels. 62 gas guns, we use Bartlein and Criterion blanks. Not trying to poke at Benchmark, Hart, Shilen etc What we have found along with a host of other shooters etcis that the consistency from barrel to Aug 8, 2006 · Reaming a barrel leaves circular tool marks in the barrel. In your case it doesn't matter, but the price is also a little less too in most cases. Terry Cross uses Krieger. Inexpensive barrels are often now rifled. A lot of folks use the button rifled barrels and have extremely good luck with Having said all that, I personally am a fan of either Krieger or Bartlein. Dec 15, 2024 · Choosing the right barrel for your precision rifle is a critical decision. 22cm, etc. Krieger, Hart, Shillen, proof, benchmark, Brux May 26, 2008 · #8- Bartlein 338 9tw SS 5R LEFT hand twist, MTU 31" $430 SOLD #9- Bartlein 30 cal 11tw SS 5R 3b 27" 6 straight flutes stopping at 21" $350 #10- Bartlein 338 10tw SS 5R 1. Or a Lilja or Krieger barrel, for that matter. Dec 27, 2021 · I have purchased Krieger barrels that were okay, around 1 moa, nothing to write home about. The 2 barrels I’m torn between are brux and ace. I can’t seem to find a . Going with a known top-level barrel maker, like Krieger or Bartlein, makes more sense in this scenario. Mar 9, 2018 · I've shot Krieger, Hart, Obermeyer, Blackstar (remember those? They were HARD) and Douglas in service rifle M14s, have a 22" Krieger in 308 from @MikeRTacOps, shot a couple John Holliger PacNor 1:6. Dec 25, 2023 · Save money when chambering multiple barrels at a time. After reading the threads here and elsewhere about "best barrel" Krieger seemed to always be at the top. Aug 23, 2009 · Both offer 5R, but it will cost you on the Krieger and equalize the prices between them. Not 5R that I recall. 5mm bartlein 5r both are m24 profile. 25. May 26, 2016 · Have another Shilen SS ratchet rifle barrel on another rig, but have only broken it in. Then, 500 rds later the 'golden age' of that barrel wears out and they are back to coming 4th or 5th. I have Bartlein on my hunting rifles mainly because Krieger doesn't make stainless below a #5 contour. 4. Good ammo is more important than which badge on the barrel. Jan 1, 2019 · Either would be great in my opinion and being me I’d probably go 8 since bullets aren’t getting shorter and I don’t believe extra RPMs hurt accuracy on good bullets. Surgeon had a Krieger barrel in the contour I wanted that was already chambered for the cartridge I was going for It happened to be 5R, so I went with it. If I felt the need for that level of accuracy potential in a 10/22, I wouldn't hesitate to but a Bartlein barrel. 308 cal all 3 of the ones mentioned are a good products. I however am very curious and I always like to experiment and learn more. Feb 7, 2011 · Re: difference between bartlein and ER shaw Generally speaking, Bartlein barrels are considered top tier barrels and ER Shaw are high mid grade. 5" and CLE 1:7. Walther barrels are harder so they might last longer but I'd place my bet on Krieger for accuracy. A good barrel will shoot well even chamber in a 3 jaw chuck (not common practice for accuracy gunsmiths). 400" Long) 22LR Match Eachus Oct 11, 2020 · I removed the Krieger and torqued on the Bartlein to the exact same torque of 80 ft lb. Krieger has been very good to me and I will continue to use them primarily for tactical or competition rifles. Jun 19, 2009 · I personally own (4) Krieger 5R's, (1) Krieger 4 groove, (3) Bartlein 5R's and (1) Bartlein 4 groove. As far as I have seen Lothar and a Pac-Nor make extremely good polygonal setups including for the AR. the options are: Ace Bartlein Proof Research I've never built a custom rifle, so I haven't done research into barrel manufactures. I like Krieger, but have moved to Bartlein. Apr 24, 2020 · I have been considering a carbon fiber barrel and am wondering if they will have reduced barrel whip compared to a similar weight steel contour (say a Bartlein #1 contour vs the carbon fiber barrel). Feb 11, 2024 · Bartlein, Hawk Hill, White Oak Armament, X-Caliber and Ballistic Advantage. Bartlein has the gain twist and left hand stuff cornered. 22-250, . All of the top name barrels I have had in button and rifle cut shoot great, clean easy, and wear well. The Krieger is about 1. . 236 and . 005). 7-twist barrel free of charge. I’d love to hear everyone’s experiences with the LMT 16” stainless 5. 6 instead of the factory supplied 1:8. 5-300wm with a Bartlein barrel. That says a lot. Both Craddock and Compass Lake use top of the line blanks: Krieger, Bartlein, Douglas, Criterion (for the most part). Apr 17, 2020 · This Krieger just barely edged out the Bartlein by 0. So does Bartlein. Jun 6, 2019 · I normally use Krieger barrels but have a couple of Lilja barrels. 221FB and it wasn't the funnest thing but it wasn't impossible. Your comments Jan 21, 2020 · Krieger is first because they are the most prolific 4-groove with my vendors. Ready to order another in 30/9T for a 300 NM improved or 300 PRC build. Velocity drop shows up quickly in performance. Same contour, length, muzzle threading, chamber and gunsmith. I've had barrels from Bartlein, Bartlein, Bartlein, and Bartlein (Anyone see a trend) With that said my next chambered barrel will be a Bartlein, but the one after that will come from Hawk Hill Custom Rifles. Button barrels, I've tested LOTS of them as well. Some other recent makers are not even close but there might be some others I never heard of. I have one chambered HH barrel right now and it shoots very well. That is almost as accurate as my other 6. One each of 1in12, 1in11 and 1in10 twist. Feb 1, 2021 · Thinking of buying a Vudoo rifle. Given how #3s shoot sustained, in my experience they make for great precision/hunters. All the barrels will be 22" and between an 8 and 9 twist. The proof has 1. Even so, the 3 personal builds I'm working on all are sporting Krieger SS USMC Medium contour barrels. Wade, who was still with Surgeon at the time, said he liked them and that was good enough for me. I think that the 308 barrel is a Bartlein and the 6. I have looked at Krieger and Bartlein and came across May 8, 2014 · Just noticed this new product at Fulton Armory and figured I would share for those who might be interested. To Sheldon N's point - For PRS, skill dwarfs the subtle differences in barrels 99. Select one or two if it was up to you. 5 grendel's. Javascript is required. So I was pretty bummed. Oct 28, 2023 · I read it, thanks. Sep 23, 2021 · This also holds true for the other manufacturers like Krieger and Bartlein, although Bartlein has don a great job of getting out in front of the end user and sending large quantities of rimfire barrels to European manufacturers. Jun 6, 2019 · I know I have a Bartlein and a Kreiger for my Surgeon. Same goes with threading the muzzle. Barrel was garbage. A bad barrel can't be fixed by the best gunsmithing in the world. Feb 6, 2022 · Button barrels have to have at least one more stress relieving step than do cut barrels (Krieger does an additional cryogenic stress releiving step I understand). Cant wait for 100yd testing up next! May 2, 2024 · Padom then tested ammo at 100 yards, again using his Krieger rimfire barrel: “To recap, the Krieger shot the best 50-yard results of the barrels tested so far, just barely beating the Bartlein but it was so close you can call the 50-yard results equal (. Oct 6, 2014 · The steel that Bartlein uses is much harder than many other premium barrel makers, comparable to Krieger, so you get excellent barrel life, but you will get that anyway with . 95 Specifications 20" M110 contour 1-10 twist . Or 4 vs 5r Krieger. Mar 2, 2019 · Bartlein, Krieger and Hawk Hill have all been good barrels. 875 Gas Block 5/8x24 Threaded Muzzle . I have used more Bartleins than anything especially considering the Impact by Stuteville barrels are all Bartlein. Still most of the muzzlebrakes and silencers are threaded for 5/8, i think i will have to ask all these details to the barrel manufacturer. 308 Winchester, as long as you don't push the pressures too high and erode your throat. Oct 22, 2017 · Trying to decide on which barrel to use on a 6. But the break in holes at 100 yards were little clusters so it already shows a lot of promise Also had great luck with Krieger and Brux cut rifle barrels, but no experience with Bartlein yet. Re: Hart, Kreiger or Bartlein? Originally Posted By: OnemoretimeOriginally Posted By: Frank GreenA button barrel can be a good barrel. 1 MOA apart. If you end up with a few good shooting barrels It does give you some options. 5mm is a Kreigerbut I honestly do not know. Aug 8, 2006 · Reaming a barrel leaves circular tool marks in the barrel. These barrels were both chambered by Keystone Accuracy using the same reamer, both were chopped at 24", both muzzles threaded 5/8-24. 308 Win finished chamber Rifle-length gas system Krieger selected stainless Oct 11, 2013 · with known loads from previous barrel. 5% off machining on both, 3 barrels save 25% off machining on all barrels. Dec 31, 2011 · 4 vs 5R Bartlein. Having trouble deciding between a proof stainless or bartlein in that contour. I'm thinking of going with a Krieger or Bartlein based barrel with the 5r rifling just like the original. The Ballistic Advantage barrel that I'm really happy with is a 6. This test is to see if there is any measurable, noticeable difference between a 308win Bartlein 5R or Krieger 4 Groove for the average shooter, shooting the way 99% of the people on THIS forum shoot. No particular reason other than I hear raves about Bartlein and they are doing well in shortrange benchrest. Unless you want a thicker barrel for some reason or you just want a cf cause it looks badass it doesn't seem worth it. Once you get to Bartlein, Hart, Hawk Hill, etc they're splitting RCH's in performance and it's not brand to brand, it's "install job to install job" and the biggest issue is when a guy cuts corners and gets a shitbird to install it. For our work on 7. As one of the posters above stated, the 5. If the choice was mine I would hands down go with Bartlein Mar 4, 2021 · I'm not suggesting your smith is doing this but I'd maybe be a little leery of any smith that pushed one particular brand of barrel over any of the other Premier barrel makers. The 5R barrels from krieger have been amazing so far. Any thoughts are much appreciated! Mar 9, 2012 · I don't think that any of the new 'cheap' polygonal barrel makers have a good product. I have heard good and bad on the cut barrel thing. Aug 18, 2021 · A while back on another forum there was a barrel rankings chart,call them Tier 1, Tier 2, Tier 3. I know there are many good barrels, these are just the ones I selected as a result of availability. By cut-rifling them, they take one groove at a time. I want a 26” inch rem varmint/ sendero contour. Dec 5, 2017 · But those that understand the process realize you're 10 times as likely to screw up putting the a **** near perfect barrel on a morbidly out of spec action, screw up a bed job, or ream a poorly concentric chamber than you are to get a bad barrel from any of the top 5 to 10 barrel manufacturers. They offer a nice package of barrel / bolt combination for AR's. Thanks guys Mar 26, 2022 · MW barrels shoot lights fucking out. Not benchrest, not in a mechanical rest/test fixture, etc. Two names consistently rise to the top: Bartlein and Krieger. 308. I’ve yet to try my incoming obermeyer and 2 Bartlein’s but I’d imagine the same from them. 224 centerfire blanks. Haven't load tested. 224 barrel blank is for centerfire . They were also very nice when i ordered a barrel and delivery was under ETA. Dec 27, 2017 · I've had real good luck with Krieger and Lilja. The button rifled barrels will be where you see more or less grooves offered. Say like using 855A1 and steel core bullets and ammo. Now, any of these fine custom barrels could get the best shooter in the winner’s circle, it is a strong vote of confidence that half of the guys who finished in the top 10 were running a Krieger. Nov 14, 2014 · However, it was a surprise to see more Krieger barrels in the top 10 than Bartlein. But obviously, Rock, Bartlein, Brux, Krieger, and Obermeyer, would all be great choices. When filling out the order worksheet, it asks which barrel manufacturer do I want. In . 5 addiction build. I've never experienced this in 100s of blanks from Bartlein. Dec 8, 2014 · Look at any major benchrest discipline and a Krieger barrel will show up at least 10x more often then a Walther barrel. Winds pretty consistent 3-5mph. Oct 13, 2008 · Re: Which would you prefer Bartlein or Lilja barrels? I have a Lilja chrome-moly barrel in my Robar RC-50, and it shoots fine. Oct 22, 2021 · As far as barrel differences go, I know a guy who shoots great with a Preferred Barrel Blanks barrel, and regularly outshoots guys using Bartlein, Hawk Hill, Krieger, etc. The Navy also found Kreiger's slow in their Mk 12 testing. Blanks have been donated for the review by Bartlein, Benchmark, Keystone Accuracy (Green Mountain), Krieger and Lilja. I have one Bartlein Barrel and I will not buy any again due to the long wait times and more expense compared to the Brux. Krieger, with the lower taper of their barrels, seem to give more margin for muzzle threading. Re-installed the scope to the exact same position on the scope base and torque the ring screws to the same 55 in lb. Nov 4, 2017 · Krieger uses one of the hardest stainless steels on the market. Aug 23, 2009 · I am in the process of putting together a AR-10 accuracy build in 6. My first Hart . Apr 17, 2020 · Big thanks to Keystone Accuracy for doing the barrel work for this review and turning everything around quickly. I know of a few barrel manufactures who have stepped their game up in the last couple years and seem to be producing better results. Hawk Hill Custom - Hawk Hill Custom These barrels win matches. Bartlein issue was early last year. They were wrong. Here's a picture I just snapped for you of barrel coins from my Bartlein and Krieger . I have ran more bartlein steel barrels than any other brand combined. I bought another barrel straight from Green Mountain and it shot 1 1/4-1 1/2" in 6. That said, I've owned some fantastic shooting Bartlein 5R barrels and I would buy more Bartlein if my vendors had more choices in 4-groove. Nov 30, 2016 · With that being said 99% of shooters couldn't tell the difference if you gave them a rifle with a button barrel from Hart, Broughton, Benchmark, etc. Higher end barrels are now stress releived, by heating them up to about 470 degrees and allowed to cool. My experience has been the cut rifled barrels are easier to find a load for and also tend to shoot multiple bullets/loads better across the board than button barrels do. Now for the most part these were just personal opinions , but repete usage says a lot. The lapped-in barrels (Krieger and Douglas) MIGHT shoot good longer and clean easier. Almost the same as a button barrel except when the button barrel won’t shoot too well they don’t blame the Rifling. Dan Muller been around a long time and knows what he's doinghis barrels are very well regarded. 7. May 31, 2013 · Exactly. PHENOMENAL! Jan 10, 2020 · If you look at most equipment lists of the top scoring competitors at most national level competitions, probably 50-75% are using Bartlein barrels. Jan 17, 2025 · Krieger and Bartlein (proof research also) are both cut rifled barrels, vs most other brands being button rifled. 5x284. I'm working on a new project and I am in need of a custom barrel for it. 177" 6x5 with SK Rifle Match! The 10x5 was 0. The rifle is going to be a KAC MK11 Mod 0 clone so it will be a 20" barrel chambered in . Dec 15, 2020 · I have a custom 7mm WSM that I will be installing a new barrel on. Oct 17, 2013 · Unlike Mudrunner I know that the barrel is the single most important part of a rifles accuracy. Higher end barrels are then airgauged to check for tight and loose Aug 26, 2015 · After that I'll get a Bartlein barrel and maybe a slightly faster twist rate, like 1:7. Contrary to that theory, I don't see carbon accumulate there. 2 barrels save 12. I got dog piled pretty bad. If your Bartlein took 135 shots to DO ANYTHING, you either were doing something wrong or you had a bad barrel and should have contacted @Frank Green immediately. I'm trying to get maximum accuracy out of this build and I'm trying to decide between a heavy contour 1:10" Krieger or Criterion barrel. These days I think you are pretty safe buying what's available from any of the top barrel manufacturers. Oct 1, 2020 · Both barrels are as close as possible to the same twist, Bartlein sent me a 1:11. 308 and is going to have a 1-11" twist. Now i just have to decide between Krieger and Bartlein. I’m in the market for a Gucci SPR and can’t decide which route to go. If you haven't shot a hawk hill yet, you ought to give it a try. A . I'm planning to buy a pre-fit from Southern Precision Rifles in 6mm Creedmoor. 223, . 25 and Krieger sent me a 1:11. Dec 5, 2020 · Barrels like all things go up and down and change over the years. 20 shank and the bartlein 1. I have one Shilen in a 35 Whelen. I don't know what barrel David Bailey was shooting but I think it might be a Brux, too. Premium barrels will almost always shoot under 1 moa with match grade bullets. I would consider Lilja a premium top shelf barrel but no better than Hart, Bartlein, Krieger, Brux, Broughton, and Benchmark just to name a few. I use both brands interchangeably. Dec 5, 2015 · I have Krieger barrels on two of my rifles. Mar 27, 2018 · Im going to re-barrel a rifle in 264 win mag, and was wondering if there’s any preference for a Bartlein vs Brux barrel? Going with a 3B/#5 respectively and a 1/8 twist for 140gr bullets. I’ve been told of several Brux barrels that were even tighter than . I know Krieger offers 6 groove barrels, but you'll pay more for a 6 groove barrel than for a 4 groove. In my 223rem Tl3 barrel review and testing, the MW shot the best of all of them (Bartlein, Krieger, MW, Shilen, Benchmark) Aug 22, 2012 · 65BR - Howdy ! There's an embarassement of riches, as regards barrel choices for today's shooters. I currently have seven Brux barrels with two more on order. Rack grade chrome lined barrels will flirt with 1 moa and sometimes shoot tighter than that with match grade bullets. Krieger has been delivering blanks way way faster, like 1/3 the time. I was hoping for some feedback on the ones listed above. 56 needs all the velocity it can get to give energy transfer and bullet expansion. Oct 21, 2013 · If I go with the CLE option, the barrel will be put into a LaRue Stealth MLOK upper/handguard set with JP FMOS, Seekins Lower with Vltor A5. Having started out as a custom barrel maker making custom barrels in one's and two's, we found that more and more of our work was in longer and longer runs of barrels of the same type and when it takes an hour or more to rifle a barrel, it sure leads to long days. No complaints but I've not shot it for groups. 236 bore 6mm’s and Bartlein’s standard is . Some specific questions I have are: LMT 16” stainless barrel accuracy May 9, 2015 · Now 4340 is better for barrel life and harder bullets. I've shot some really really good groups from both button and cut barrels. 350 MTU 31" $350 SOLD #11- Rock 7mm 9tw SS 5R SS MTU 30" (this is an early 2000s barrel) $350 Jan 25, 2021 · I've owned several button barrels and a few cut rifled barrels from K&P, Bartlein, Brux and Krieger. 5-twist 223 spacegun barrel that blew up bullets), and they replaced it with a ready-to-install,chambered, contoured, gas port drilled, barrel extension installed) 7. I would say they were in this order of how they shot: Krieger/Bartlein Benchmark/Green Mountain Lilja The Krieger and Bartlein shot about the same with the Krieger edging out the Bartlein on that day with that ammo slightly at Jun 4, 2021 · Brux barrels are dimensionally tighter than Bartlein 5R’s. The biggest things you can do for barrel life are: * reduce rate of fire Feb 26, 2016 · FWIW, the M80 I'm shooting is all ZQI ammo which I've confirmed (at least in a bolt gun) shoots the advertised MOA at 100 meters. Final chamber polishing is important given the rotating M1/M14 bolt extraction process requires a smooth chamber, and this seems to be a non-trivial problem for new barrels, including my last Krieger heavy SS barrel. Proof Sendero light vs # 3 Bartlein is maybe 5 oz lighter? Jun 16, 2016 · 10 AR-15s with Bartlien barrels 10 AR-15s with Krieger barrels 10 AR-15s with Hawk Hill customs 10 AR-15s with Larue 10 AR-15s with brand XXXX high end barrel Build all of them with the best possible methods And average the respective accuracy results and I doubt they will be more than . 003" with a 0. Because they have more slope to the land sides, carbon is said to accumulate there less. 5 cm in a Mega MATEN LR-308 rifle. I currently am running Bartlein barrels and have no complaints about them. Other Krieger's have been good and normal velocity. I've seen $6,000 F Class guns shoot average scores with one barrel, and next week with a new barrel win matches. Krieger and I'm sure Bartlein will make barrels with more grooves. Higher end barrels are now lapped to remove the tool marks. Excellent results with all. Yeah I’ve got a 6mm krieger 4 grove and 6. Big thank you to these companies for supporting the Snipers Hide community! May 8, 2024 · The Douglas/barnett barrels I have and the Kriegers have all performed how I would expect a premium barrel to perform. Plus I think it’s fun try something new. Today's barrel making technology is amazing and I wouldn't be afraid of owning either a cut or button barrel, as I have a 300 win mag with a Krieger barrel that shoots 1/2moa most of the time I still prefer cut rifled barrels over buttoned because I find that they are less finicky , ive gotten barrels from Rock , Bartlein , Krieger , and brux that were all hammers as I have from Hart , Shilen , PacNor and as mentioned Douglas. Mar 5, 2011 · Hart barrels rock, my last 2 Harts were stunningly repeatable. I'll check the research on 6. Also, some shops selling barrels AND pre-fits only handle Tier 1 barrels , "bugholes"being one. and an identical rifle with a cut rifled barrel from Bartlein, Krieger, Brux, etc. To recap, the Krieger shot the best 50yd results of the barrels tested so far, just barely beating the Bartlein but it was so close you can call the 50yd results equal (. After doing a lot of reading on the various forums, I have come to the conclusion that the LaRue is considered one of the most accurate of the cheaper barrels (especially while they are on sale) while the Bartlein or Krieger are considered two of May 13, 2024 · I'm on the waitlist for an M25RL build from LRB. Best Barrel Contour & Length Jan 5, 2012 · For single point cut rifled barrels Krieger, Bartlein, and Brux are my "go to" barrels of choice. Mar 15, 2010 · Re: KREIGER Barrels VS HART Barrels They are both great quality barrels and there are many other barrel makers as well that produce great barrels like Shilen,Rock creek and the list goes on. Oct 4, 2022 · Most M14 gunsmiths only want to do final chamber reaming, sometimes with a pull-through reamer. 224 cal it's that much better than the competition. Higher end barrels are then airgauged to check for tight and loose Aug 27, 2015 · After that I'll get a Bartlein barrel and maybe a slightly faster twist rate, like 1:7. Please enable javascript before you are allowed to see this page. This is the first Krieger rimfire Ive shot and it didnt disappoint. They are excellent barrels. Feb 19, 2021 · Simply put, no barrel is going to shoot junk ammo into tiny little groups. 5x more expensive than the Criterion (called Krieger and they quoted ~$575 including shipping vs LRB's Criterion of $379). I have and will continue to use both. If a fluted barrel is desired, then a cut barrel makes more sense as well due to the possibility of the button barrel opening up dimensionally. Pushed a wet patch then dry patchs through the new barrel to make sure the bore was clean. Tony has all the parts, and we are waiting for the receiver to be completed. I’m hoping to achieve sub MOA accuracy and to have the rifle be reliable. 237 barrels in 6mm. It’s a bartlien and it shoots better than I can. Jan 2, 2013 · My Brux barrels shoot just as well as Krieger or Bartlein. Both are renowned for producing high-quality, match-grade barrels, but they differ in their manufacturing processes and resulting characteristics. Bugholes as 30 cal Bartlein blanks in stock so the lead time shouldn't be a factor. I have purchased WOA $225 service rifle barrels that stacked ten rounds just over a half inch at 100 yards. Have several Bartlein but never tried a Brux. I use mostly Krieger or Bartlein barrels myself since I’m kinda stuck on cut rifled barrels. 5 CM to see what is the sweet spot for it with bullets above 120 grains. In your case, you spent the money on a custom action. They all shoot extremely well. Any input good or bad on either would be appreciated May 28, 2013 · If I'm in the mood for a single point cut barrel Krieger has been my "go to" and if a button rifled barrel or I want one really fast Hart is my default but having had multiple conversations with Frank Green of Bartlein barrels and him taking the time to answer with depth any and all questions I come up with, my next barrel will be a Bartlein barrel and it likely will be in their new 400MODBB Nov 19, 2011 · George Gardner likes Bartlein barrels. 22 RF and . That should give you your answer. 00 from someone on a different forum and the thing shoots 123 Amax's 3500fps into 3/8" at 100yds from a 6. I've chambered a LW in . 5. 22 calibers like . I don’t shot well enough to tell the difference I’d like to pick up a thinner 308 bore to use as a hunting barrel and it would just be who’s in stock when i go looking. I can say this, the barrels that are installed perform exactly the same. Cut rifled barrels are generally regard the best you can buy, Bartlein in particular has made a name for themselves. In general a good Bartlein and a good Krieger will (properly tuned, chambered and fitted) will not show you any difference. If you have a barrel maker that understands the limitations for each process, and has a method for mitigating the impact of those limitations on the barrel quality, then their products should be just fine. Jan 8, 2017 · I have been torn between going with the cheaper LaRue or the more expensive Bartlein or Krieger. 9% of the time. 40 years ago, any rifle that would consistently group close to 1 moa was to die for. Chromoly barrels have much better life to them than stainless in general, but are harder to bore a straight hole through. I’m leaning towards a “MK12” from Type A or a 18 inch rifle from ADM but would go CLE with a Bartlein/Krieger barrel if the gurus Jul 13, 2013 · Seems like a Bartlein 2B or even #3 is pretty close in weight to a Proof Sendero. It was GM, Bartlein, Benchmark, Krieger and Lilja. May 19, 2020 · I keep saying this with each barrel, but more so now then ever, I cannot wait to shoot this Bartlein at 100yds!! Since everyone always asks, this Bartlein is the same exact barrel specs as all the others tested. Dec 27, 2023 · I’m going to order a new barrel for a Remington 700 243 soon. All shot very well. Some of these are not spun up yet, most are. View attachment 550898 Dec 3, 2014 · I bought a Green Mountain barrel for 50. 20" Bartlein M24 Muzzle Threaded 1/2-28 (0. Aug 21, 2012 · AR spacegun or varmint rig, get the Krieger barrel. I've had really good results with these, even though it seems Ballistic Advantage isn't a high success rate barrel like Bartlein, etc. Oct 3, 2020 · I just want to clear a few things up based on some comments, etc. Preferred turnaround time Includes chamber, muzzle threads, and bead blasting. My 6 Creedmoor has a CF wrapped Proof barrel and I don't know how it could shoot any better than it does but even with that I'd never take a Proof over any of the other three I mentioned. 236. Just ask Jun 13, 2019 · Furthermore, the wait times on Brux barrels are normally shorter than a Bartlein. 8 or 7. I own several and all are outstanding accurate and easy to clean barrels. I am especially interested in a cut-rifled barrel for the utmost in accuracy potential. Mar 23, 2013 · My SAI Super Match rifle came with a Douglass barrel and it is sub MOA accurate out to 1000 yards. 219 bore. 5 twist. Of the top four F-Open shooters at the Nationals this year, at least two shot Brux barrels. Any idea where I should start my research Aug 6, 2023 · Basically the title. You won't get a better quality or more accurate barrel. Price: Starting at $624. What is everyone’s experiences with those two barrels May 2, 2018 · My Krieger AR barrels were the slow ones. If no one has what I want in Krieger then I will go Brux. Krieger have typically run the fastest per caliber for me, but Bartlein and Hawk Hill have always been good barrels. My preference is for Bartlein, but that's more because I can randomly harass Frank G on this forum and get a response. Apr 12, 2018 · Yes I’ve ran several proof carbon barrels. Jun 6, 2019 · Bartlein barrels are top notch barrels. Feb 22, 2025 · Not like a CF barrel that will be toast in 3-4 months. 5 MOA range. Your Brux barrels may be operating at a higher pressure than your Bartlein 5R’s. I think my wet dream would be to have a Bartlein barrel "core" wrapped in carbon fiber by Christensen Arms. Nickle also increases barrel operating temperatureso why doesn't the military use it? Blame that on the military industrial complex of lining pockets and replaceable vs better. 198". 7" Krieger AR service rifles, have a couple Tooley Bartleins for my AIAX, a Kreiger 300wm from RW Snyder. Consistent sub MOA all day long for 5 shot groups. Jul 2, 2013 · I have several Bartlein 5R barrels and don't think they clean easier than a Krieger or Brux four groove. Krieger barrels on several R700 bolt guns in . The best lots of CX werent far behind either. 25" twist) from their first run of M-14 tubes. Jul 29, 2009 · You'll find that the majority of cut rifled barrels such as Krieger and Bartlein are 4 groove barrels. Mar 10, 2020 · For example, Krieger offers both . I personaly believe the person chambering and crowning the barrel will be more of a factor than brand name. Krieger also does AR barrels. Can I expect the same accuracy with Krieger 4 groove barrels that I would with bartlien? I’m wondering if the Bartlein is worth the 6-9 month wait over a in stock Krieger. Jul 29, 2008 · I've had exactly one Krieger that caused problems,a 6. 5-300wm. Brux typically makes . I've shot many MWshooting one on my 22BR right now and it's hammering. All three are reputable companies and all three produce hummers, but also the occassional dud. 237. I have read in a few places that carbon fiber barrels reduce barrel whip but it would be nice to hear it from the "horse's mouth" so to speak Apr 17, 2020 · Alright winds were much calmer tonight then this morning so the 100yd Krieger test was a success.
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